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Recovering from Vegetarianism

By Ron Schmid, ND

Dr. Weston Price was very interested in vegetarian ideas. Of Vitu Levu, a large island in the Pacific Ocean, he wrote, “I had hoped to find on it a district far enough from the sea to make it necessary for the natives to have lived entirely on land foods… one of the purposes of the expedition to the South Seas was to find, if possible, plants or fruits which together, without the use of animal products, were capable of providing all of the requirements for growth and for maintenance of good health and a high state of physical efficiency.”

He expressed his “disappointment” that “…I have not found a single group of primitive racial stock which was building and maintaining excellent bodies by living entirely on plant foods. I have found in many parts of the world most devout representatives of modern ethical systems advocating the restriction of foods to the vegetable products. In every instance where the groups involved had been long under this teaching, I found evidence of degeneration.”

Dr. Price’s disappointment that vegan diets are invariably deficient appears to be echoed in the histories of many of us who follow his teachings. Who among us has not at some time tried to follow a vegetarian or near vegetarian regime? Vegan, fruitarian, vegetarian, ovo-lacto-vegetarian, with or without occasional fish or chicken…it sometimes seemed we were conditioned to eat as little animal food as we could get by on. Even after reaching an intellectual understanding of Price’s work and the critical importance of nutrients, especially fat-soluble activators, found only in animal foods, we often appear to be perhaps unconsciously concerned about eating too much of them. Such concern and an accompanying aversion to eating very much animal food is most marked, of course, before one learns about Price’s work. Years of vegetarian or near vegetarian eating result in, to use Dr. Price’s word, degeneration. How does one recover?

This question applies as well to many of us who may never have considered ourselves vegetarians. Many people have relied for extended periods on dairy foods to provide needed nutrients, but because of the poor quality of commercial dairy products, they provide little in the way of critical nutrients and typically aggravate allergies and other chronic problems. Quality raw dairy products are difficult for most people to obtain. Commercial meats are avoided by most health-conscious people for obvious reasons, as is any substantial quantity of seafood because of the mercury content. Thus a dearth of quality animal foods has been characteristic at one time or another of the diet of many health seekers.

So it seems to me that most of us do have one degree or another of “recovery” ahead of us once we come to a realization of the importance of quality animal foods. And because we often tend to think even then that a little animal food is enough in a “balanced” diet, we may without realizing it never consume enough animal fat, with its activators and other nutrients, to reach robust good health.

According to Dr. Price, the most critical nutrients were those found in the fats of wild animals or grassfed domestic animals and their milk products. These nutrients include vitamins A and D, EPA, DHA and other fatty acids, activator X and perhaps other unknown nutrients. Along with enzymes supplied only in raw and fermented foods, these are the nutrients that are most lacking in modern diets.

Misunderstanding surrounding vitamin D is typical of the confusion most people have about animal source nutrients. Dr. Price wrote, “There is misapprehension with regard to the possibility that humans may obtain enough of the vitamin D group of activators from our modern plant foods or from sunshine (my emphasis)…there are known to be at least eight D factors that have been definitely isolated and twelve that have been reported or partially isolated.” Misapprehension today generally goes much further. Even people who are aware of Dr. Price’s work often believe that optimal amounts of vitamin D can be obtained from exposure to sunlight. And just as most have been intimidated by the media and the medics into hedging their bets when it comes to the consumption of cholesterol-rich animal foods, most shy away from all but the smallest amounts of vitamin D supplementation.

This may be why I have always found cod liver oil to be the most valuable single food supplement most people can take. I believe that many people who profess to eat “the Weston Price way” have in fact never fully recovered from the deficiencies of their vegetarian or near-vegetarian years. By richly supplying vitamin D and other fat-soluble nutrients, cod liver oil hastens recovery.

How much vitamin D might be optimal is somewhat controversial but the question is central to a discussion about recovering from vegetarianism. Modern diets are notoriously low in vitamin D, often providing not even the minimal 400 IU per day recommended by the government. Scores of recent studies, however, have indicated that much higher amounts protect against a host of chronic diseases, including cancer. Something of a consensus has recently emerged among scientists who study the issue that about three or four thousand IUs per day may be optimal.

This is the amount provided in about one tablespoon of high-vitamin cod liver oil – that is, cod liver oil which contains the full complement of vitamins A and D naturally found in cod liver oil. Most cod liver oils have had a large fraction of these vitamins removed in processing, for reasons ranging from convenience in manufacturing to kowtowing to the medical profession’s scare tactics about the alleged dangers of excess amounts of vitamins A and D. Confusion results because fairly low levels of the synthetic versions of vitamins A and D may indeed be toxic. The natural forms as provided in cod liver oil, however, are safe in substantial doses.

One tablespoon of high vitamin cod liver oil provides about 35,000 IUs of vitamin A and 3,500 IUs of vitamin D. This is a reasonable amount for most individuals. I have used two to four times that amount myself for extended periods, as have many of my patients, with many benefits and no apparent harm. Blood tests for vitamin D levels have remained in reasonable ranges. Studies published in the 1930s, when vitamin D therapy was commonly used in the treatment of arthritis and other conditions, indicated that doses far in excess of 20,000 IU of natural vitamin D per day were non-toxic. It appears that the problem of vitamin D toxicity, and that of vitamins in general, has been greatly exaggerated.

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Many people are eating diets that are based on vegetables, fruits, and grains, and include modest amounts of meat, seafood, fowl, eggs and perhaps some raw dairy. Such natural foods diets seem reasonable enough, and fit well with the concept, promoted by many popular politically correct articles and books, that our ancestors ate a diet that was low in fat and moderate in animal protein, and had lots of fiber. Such a dietary approach certainly beats scotch, pasta and cheesecake, and many people feel considerably better when adopting it.

But it is not a diet that is built to last, because the centerpiece of a truly healthy diet must be animal foods. That means a substantial portion of meat, seafood, fowl, eggs or raw dairy at just about every meal. That is how one recovers from vegetarianism and builds lasting health and strength. It is not necessary to eat a lot of meat in such a regime, or any at all for that matter, if grassfed raw dairy is used liberally. In fact, because things go best when a large part of the animal fat and protein is consumed raw, grassfed raw dairy is especially important for those who do not eat raw or undercooked meat.

Dr. Price’s work makes it abundantly clear that indigenous people everywhere emphasized the consumption of raw or undercooked animal foods. Such food is nearly or completely lacking in most diets today. Along with the fat-soluble activators, raw fat and protein are in my opinion essential for robust health. Native diets were full of guts, grease and enzymes, the latter found only in raw foods, as well as the fat-soluble activators. Grassfed raw milk provides all of these nutrients in abundance.

Fiber is one thing largely animal food diets provide very little of. We have all heard how critical fiber is for intestinal health. It is not uncommon to become constipated when adopting an animal food-rich diet while cutting back on vegetables, fruits and grains. How do we deal with this?

A reasonably bulky stool is necessary if one is to have regular and easy bowel movements. The obvious and usually recommended way to achieve this is indeed to eat a high-fiber diet. The other, little understood way, the way followed by the native cultures Price studied, was to eat a diet rich in fermented foods and raw animal protein and fat.

Fermented animal foods such as clabbered milk and yogurt and kefir made from raw milk, and fermented vegetables, support the proliferation in the intestinal tract of large quantities of beneficial bacteria. These bacteria bulk up the stools, resulting in easy elimination even on diets containing very little fiber. It takes some time for this buildup to occur, often several weeks, and a good probiotic helps this process. My patients often benefit from using psyllium powder to maintain bulk during the transition to a high animal food diet.

Dr. Francis Pottenger wrote about another aspect of the influence of raw animal foods on intestinal health, explaining that raw food consists mostly of hydrophilic colloids. Hydrophylic means water loving, and a colloid is a suspension of solid particles in a gel-like fluid. Eaten uncooked, these colloids absorb large quantities of digestive juices, forming a gelatinous mass that maintains the mucosa of the stomach and digestive tract in a healthy state.

The heat of cooking precipitates out colloids, making them hydrophobic (water hating). The hydration capacity of the colloids is decreased, and they become less able to absorb digestive juices. Colloidal cellulose and pectins in plants can withstand greater temperatures without being precipitated than can proteins; this is why cooking has a less pronounced effect on the digestibility of plants than on that of animal foods. In modern diets, most people get it backwards, emphasizing eating vegetables raw while cooking all animal foods.

In Dr. Pottenger’s ten-year cat study, cooked-food cats were consistently found at autopsy to have much longer intestines than raw-food cats. Intestines of the former had many distensions and general lack of tone; the length was often up to twice that of raw-food cats. A similar process may be at work in humans as well. The argument has been made that the length of the human digestive tract demonstrates that humans are best suited for a vegetarian diet, because the remnants of the digestion of animal flesh may putrefy when stagnant in the rather long human intestines. The eating of refined and overcooked foods may indeed contribute to that length; problems allegedly due to flesh too long in the intestines may in fact be due to intestines that are too long. Price’s natives ate a substantial portion of their proteins and fats raw, and suffered no such problems.

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Dr. Price studied native people from the far north country of Alaska and Canada to the equatorial regions of Africa and the South Pacific, from the mountains of Switzerland to the jungles of the Amazon. He encountered a tremendous range of diets, all based on what food was locally available and upon wisdom passed down for hundreds of generations. From the information he compiled, we are left to draw conclusions about how to select foods today to restore and maintain health.

This is no easy task. For some 25 years, I have sought to understand Price’s work and apply it in my own. Here are a few observations I have made about recovering from vegetarianism and the pervasive influence vegetarian thinking has had on most of us.

  • When it comes to quality grassfed animal food, more is better. One need not fear eating too much, and a substantial part is best eaten raw or undercooked.
  • Grains are a relatively new food for humans. Only a few of the cultures Price studied ate grains. When eaten, grains were very carefully and traditionally prepared. Grain foods that do not meet this criteria are best avoided. Many people feel best by simply eliminating all grain foods.
  • Almost every individual does well with the right kind and quantities of grassfed raw dairy foods for him or her, and with fermented vegetables.
  • The right special foods and supplemental nutrients for the individual result in a much more rapid and thorough recovery. These include cod liver oil, X-factor type butter oil, probiotics, organs and glands, and other nutrients to complement the individual’s diet and alleviate specific medical problems.
  • The help of a practitioner who understands Dr. Price’s work is invaluable. There is no one-size-fits-all diet you will find in any book by any “expert” (an expert being, in Will Rogers’ words, somebody who wrote a book and lives at least fifty miles away). Your needs are your own, based on your likes and dislikes, background and current condition, what’s available and practical for you, and many other intangibles that can only be understood in the context of a carefully taken medical history. A good practitioner is a mentor who can help you find the specific diet, special foods, and nutrients and proportions that are right for you.

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Think of your health as a dream house that you are at last free to build, a home that will shelter you for the rest of your life. Imagine for a moment that Dr. Price is the master designer and teacher who spent a lifetime studying homes throughout the world to learn the fundamental principles of house construction, principles which if followed will enable the home to be sturdy and beautiful. Imagine that your mentor is the architect who has learned what Dr. Price has taught, and learned from you just what you want and need, and prepared for you a marvelous set of blueprints – a detailed plan with which to build.

But imagine too in our little game that the rules say that only you can be the builder. To make the dream real you must act. To build your dream house, you would need to find the carpenters, the stone workers, the artisans to construct the various elements and bring them together. You would need to learn new things and coordinate the work of many other people. It might be difficult. But you could do it, certainly, if, say, your life depended on it.

Building the house of your health is not so different. Here too you will need to learn new things, adopt new disciplines, and coordinate the work of others. You’ll need to find the food, and perhaps even the people who grow the food, to make the house of your health as beautiful, as sturdy, and as fine as you would like. But it shouldn’t be so hard – since your life does indeed depend on it.

Ron Schmid, ND, has practiced naturopathic medicine since 1981. He served for two years as Chief Medical Officer and Clinic Director at the University of Bridgeport College of Naturopathic Medicine. He is the author of Traditional Foods Are Your Best Medicine, and The Untold Story of Milk. He is on the honorary board of the Weston A. Price Foundation and has written for Wise Traditions, the quarterly journal of the Foundation. As well as running his own naturopathic clinic, Dr Ron makes 100% additive-free nutrients, formulas and special foods. Click here to visit Dr Ron's website.

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COMMENTS - 12 Responses

  1. I also had experience with vegetarian lifestyle. Went almost completely vegan for five years. Combined my foods properly to make sure I was getting foods with high protein and nutrient dense. However, I got very thin (people thought I had AIDS), and weak. Being a weight lifter/body builder, I was unable to lift some of the poundages I was use to but I continued thinking that the lifestyle would finally kick-in and I would get over the hump so to speak. It never happen! I returned to my old traditional diet, and now I’m back to feeling great and doing the things I enjoyed prior to my experience with veganism. That lifestyle truely is not for everyone.
    Clancy

  2. Hi. I have been a Vegan for 16 years. Prior to that I was a vegetarian for 7 years. So in total I haven’t eaten red meat for 23 years. I really enjoy my lifestyle and I think you have to feel comfortable in it to make it work. Vegan and vegetarian lifestyles are not for everyone, but for me, it was the only way that I have achieved optimal health. Of course, you can’t just rely on a Vegan lifestyle to maintain excellent health. You have to do other things as well and I think this is where people get confused. People think all their problems will be solved once you become a Vegan but you can also fall into traps which can debilitate your health as well. I like to think of my body in a spiritual sense but also compare it to an engine - you only get out what you put in AND you must clean it and drain all the yukky stuff out regularly! Even vegans get sick! Supplementation is one way, exercise, cleansing, and spiritual and mental health are all important too, just as it would be for a meat eater. I have three children, and I baffle my dogmatic western style doctors constantly with my excellent health. I have never been anaemic (though my meat eating sister has), and I have never been in hospital for any health issues (apart from childbirth - got to love those pain killing drugs!)

    There are a lot of misperceptions about the Vegan lifestyle in our community. We’re just normal people. It also helps if you get support from your family and friends for your choices in lifestyle. Everybody needs to be free to make thier own choices about their diet and free to access unbiased information. Then we will all be free!

  3. 3. Cathy Mifsud
    Apr 27th, 2008 at 12:56 pm

    Dear Kathleen
    I just deleted a HUGE letter to you about my life. Thought I’d spare you my life story and keep it simple.
    Veganism didn’t work for me. I feel it damaged me. I will be forever great full to Ralph Moser for handing me New Dawn - Stephen Byrnes ” Myths of Vegetarianism” and Ann Burger for recommending I read ” Nourishing Traditions”.
    I feel for your family because the examples of veganism I have seen and hear about through friends, especially in the little ones is not good. It includes delayed developement and rotting teeth. I have read articles, one from ” Kindred Mag ” that a study on American vegan children showed an average IQ much lower compared to meat eating kids. They also had more health issues. I’ve read the Vegan Sociaty’s websites and found some of the food it promoted eating to be dead and toxic.
    If you are healthy why do you need a western style doctor? If you are healthy why did you need a hospital and drugs to birth your children? How are your vegan friends little ones going, how are their teeth and developement? A vegan 21 month old boy I know has browning teeth and no words. What unbiased information led you down this vegan path? Please consider reading other unbiased info like the research work of Dr Weston Price because your childrens health and the health of their children largely depends on you.
    It would be nice to hear from you again. Kind regards, Cathy.

  4. Hello again!
    Thanks to Cathy for having the courage to talk about her experiences. The world we live in is a vast and unending series of events and environments which all take us down different paths in life. I cannot answer all of Cathy’s questions as I would be here all day and night! However, Cathy, I understand your fears, but the answer to all fears is to do your own research. Don’t let hearsay and rumors make your decisions or guide you in one set direction. Find out for yourself who is funding these studies you speak of. Who is writing the articles? Are they merely a spokesperson for the meat or dairy industry in disguise? What I would say as a Vegan is, that there is nutrition in meat and dairy products, but is it the best form of nutrition you can get? Is the calcium that one gets from milk the best form of calcium for us? Is there a better, more easily digested form in a non-dairy food source?
    The debate can be endless and we could go back and forth forever. My best piece of advice to you and indeed anyone when making choices about their health, is to read widely, check the backgrounds of the people making unusual claims (ie: their previous work history and/or publicly stated beliefs)and if in doubt, consult a health practitioner who can assist you to make good choices. Don’t go it alone! In our country, we have open to us, qualified health practitioners from every part of the globe. Be it Western, European, Asian, and so on. We are lucky. Use them and you will feel more confident to speak to your friends when they talk about such rumors. Thanks again Cathy and don’t worry about my little ones. They run me out with their boundless energy, endless questions about our wonderful planet, great health….and….big smiles through perfectly straight white teeth!!!!!!!!

  5. 5. Cathy Mifsud
    Apr 30th, 2008 at 9:51 am

    Dear Kathleen,
    what makes you so sure in your veganism beliefs that you can confidently bring up your children as vegans when this is a modern way of living? No peoples in history lived on such a diet. What about Weston Price’s research, what do you think about his findings? Do you think he had alterior motives?
    Do you know of any vegans that have watched their vegan children grow to then have their own children? Has this ever happened?
    We know from Weston Price that people did thrive continuosly from generation to generation on their native diets which all included animal foods. There is no risk in feeding a child organic raw dairy or organic bone broth / organs because we know for fact that these foods are nutritious. It seems a risk too great in raising a child on vegan foods only.
    I was once vegan for 12 years so I have personal experience. I honestly wish I trusted the inherent knowledge of my maltese family when they showed concern for me as I deteriorated before their eyes. I didn’t see at the time how narrow mindedf I’d become. I try to keep open mind these days. Look forward to hearing from you,
    Cathy.

  6. Thanks for this article! I am trying to get “back on track” with my NT foods. I was starting to eat too many grains again and feeling it in my gut and bones and moods and uterus/ovaries. Time for some bone broths and cod liver oil again!

    And yes, I was mostly vegetarian for ten years because my husband was when we got married. It did a lot of damage to my health. Sorry to say.

  7. I have watched a vegetarian friend raise her family as vegetarians over some ten years. All children were on soy formula from an early age. All have experienced learning delays well up into the primary school years (which they are still in) despite both parents being university educated and really involved with the kids. They are repeatedly breaking limbs, so often it is amazing. One got chicken pox a few years back, which most children breeze thorugh, and ended up almost dying of it, in hospital fighting for her life for weeks. One has thyroid problems, as a young child, and is always seeing specialists about it (no one has suggested a diet of soy). Whenever they stay with us they refuse anything with meat or milk, say they can’t even eat cheese (although they can eat corn chips with fake cheese on it). They say they love salads, and when I serve them, they don’t eat them. They bring with them their own fake soy sausages (TSP - Sanitarium) every time. It’s a typical example of meat avoidance but no replacement of nutriational food in any form. I lent their mtoehr Kayla Daniel’s book on Soy, to no avail. It is very sad seeing my kid’s friends from a loving family destroying their health. Not a good advertisement for vegetarianism.
    Mary

  8. Mary
    I know what you mean. To watch good friends destroy their health, and their family’s health in the name of vegetarianism is painful. All the information that you can give them to the contrary is ignored, and this is even after they experience many problems with their health. I guess we should pray that things will work out right for them in the long run. Somewhere they are missing the mark because if they are food combining properly they should not be having so many health problems. I wonder if they are following a vegan lifestyle because of spiritual reasons or health reasons. If it’s for spiritual reasons then they are commited to their belief and the suffering they experience for some reason is justified. These are the consequences they accept.
    Peace, joy, love, health, happiness.
    Clancy

  9. Many times I’ve seen people say that their health has changed since following the NT protocols. I am a loss as to what this really means. Does it mean following the recipes and the literature written in the book or is there something that I am missing?
    I do have the book and would love to follow its suggestions and implications but I just would like to know if there are other suggestions.

  10. Amy, I think that the ‘NT’ protocols would be considered anything traditional that has been done for ages. Things like fermented foods, raw milks, bone broths, soaked beans and grains, full fat creams and yogurts, organic vegetables and fruit, raw honeys and real maple syrup and the like. I think it also means staying away from processed foods and grains, preservatives and boxed meals. If you read the entire NT book, it’s explained well. Sally goes into great detail about diet and preparing food aside from just for a meal.

  11. Thanks Lacey. I will get into the book a lot more than I’ve been doing.

  12. Hi I am a 27-year-old man, and want to share my story. I was raised as a vegetarian for 19 years. However we did eat fish, eggs and dairy products in my family. I lived this lifestyle since I was 2 years old and first when I was 21 I was mentally able to break that habit. It was very hard to quit vegetarinism because I was programmed to think that meat was uneatable. In my mind it was non-food just as we all know that sand, stones etc. are not meant to enter the mouth.

    Throughout my life I have always been smaller in size compared to people of similar age. I have always looked min. 5 years younger than my age. I have never suffered from any serious diseases, and I have a healthy body, and an above average IQ. However, I think the lack of growth caused by vegetarism has caused me disadvantages in social life, and I would strongly advise against any parents raising their kids as vegetarians, or even worse, as vegans. I think I excel in most areas of life, but I cannot influence my height anymore. Therefore I would caution against anyone feeding their children with this damaging estrogen rich food for prolonged periods. Soya is evil.

    If any of you readers have recovered succesfully from vegetarism, also in adult life, please tell how you did. It is very difficult to find reliable information on this subject. Please share your stories too. Michael

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