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	<title>Comments on: Grass Fed Meat: our true environmental savior</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
		<link>http://nourishedmagazine.com.au/blog/articles/grass-fed-meat-our-true-environmental-savior-2#comment-19635</link>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can watch food inc. on youtube.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can watch food inc. on youtube.</p>
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		<title>By: Anita</title>
		<link>http://nourishedmagazine.com.au/blog/articles/grass-fed-meat-our-true-environmental-savior-2#comment-19623</link>
		<dc:creator>Anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Food Inc. movie is coming out in Aus on May 20th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Food Inc. movie is coming out in Aus on May 20th.</p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
		<link>http://nourishedmagazine.com.au/blog/articles/grass-fed-meat-our-true-environmental-savior-2#comment-19349</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Simon, If you are looking for a distribution outlet in Melbourne try the folk at CERES Food Connect - they will be launching their new box system in March and will probably be looking for a local meat farmer and will most certainly have subscribers buying in bulk, as we do here in Brisbane.  Try emailing cinnamon@ceres.org.au and tell them Food Connect Brisbane referred you.  Good luck! Emma</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Simon, If you are looking for a distribution outlet in Melbourne try the folk at CERES Food Connect - they will be launching their new box system in March and will probably be looking for a local meat farmer and will most certainly have subscribers buying in bulk, as we do here in Brisbane.  Try emailing <a href="mailto:cinnamon@ceres.org.au">cinnamon@ceres.org.au</a> and tell them Food Connect Brisbane referred you.  Good luck! Emma</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 11:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all, I am a farmer in Alexandra which is 1.5 hours north of Melbourne. I grow grass-fed angus beef and wiltshire lamb. I am considering establishing a grass fed meat business as an outlet to our farming operation. We are able to have our meet processed locally and available for delivery in Melbourne. I would be interested in some market feedback on what demand exists? In particular I am interested to know what portion sizes people are prepared to order. My investigations thus far are encouraging but unless people are prepared to accept bulk orders I am worried about freight costs becoming too prohibitive.
I am really pleased to discover such a well informed forum on the benefits of grass fed vs. grain fed. If you want to see a frightening documentary on the US food industry can I suggest that you watch "Food Inc."
Cheers,
Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all, I am a farmer in Alexandra which is 1.5 hours north of Melbourne. I grow grass-fed angus beef and wiltshire lamb. I am considering establishing a grass fed meat business as an outlet to our farming operation. We are able to have our meet processed locally and available for delivery in Melbourne. I would be interested in some market feedback on what demand exists? In particular I am interested to know what portion sizes people are prepared to order. My investigations thus far are encouraging but unless people are prepared to accept bulk orders I am worried about freight costs becoming too prohibitive.<br />
I am really pleased to discover such a well informed forum on the benefits of grass fed vs. grain fed. If you want to see a frightening documentary on the US food industry can I suggest that you watch &#8220;Food Inc.&#8221;<br />
Cheers,<br />
Simon</p>
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		<title>By: Deb and Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deb and Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all, great reading all these wise words, we also are on this learning curve and are looking for bothe raw dairy and grass fed meats can anyone let us know where to go for these.. we are living on mornington peninsula...thanks so much.
Deb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all, great reading all these wise words, we also are on this learning curve and are looking for bothe raw dairy and grass fed meats can anyone let us know where to go for these.. we are living on mornington peninsula&#8230;thanks so much.<br />
Deb</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cathy, reading your post made me remember an an illness caused by eating excess lean meat called Rabbit Starvation Syndrome/Disease.  I'd forgotten all about it and have just looked it up.  Symptoms include a hunger that can only be satisfied by eating fat..............
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_starvation)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cathy, reading your post made me remember an an illness caused by eating excess lean meat called Rabbit Starvation Syndrome/Disease.  I&#8217;d forgotten all about it and have just looked it up.  Symptoms include a hunger that can only be satisfied by eating fat&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_starvation)</p>
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		<title>By: Sel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 04:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 95 yo grandmother has been vegetarian almost her whole life. She's a Seventh Day Adventist and most of them are either vegetarian or vegan. It's well known Adventists as a group are among the world's most long lived people. My grandmother's husband died at age 102 and he was healthy and independent right up until he died in his sleep (he never once needed a "carer").

Vegetarians can certainly have unhealthy diets, with lots of sugar, grains and soy. But those who eat whole plant based foods are as healthy as a human can possibly be. To say otherwise is to contradict all studies on the issue as well as common sense. 

We can't graze enough animals to feed the world carcasses 3 times a day, or even a few times a week. If we take away the massive government subsidies for carcasses, beef would cost something like $90 a pound.  And all these tribal societies Weston Price talked about didn't make animals a *regular* part of their diet. They generally used animals a ritual sacrifices and then ate the dead bodies when they were done. It's still this way among ALL the "blue zone" populations ... they eat animal flesh maybe once or twice a year.

And no, organic gardening doesn't need to rely on animal wastes to be productive. Yep, that's right, there's propaganda and misconceptions even in organic farming. Animal wastes are quite unsanitary in gardening and carry all sorts of parasites that are harmless to the animal but are dangerous to humans. Cover crops, rock powders and vegetable composting can keep any organic garden quite robust without using feces. 

Soy and wheat are terrible for health, that's so true. The global mess we have from soy, corn and wheat production is horrendous. And I know from personal experience that wheat can cause estrogen dominance and all kinds of problems from that. I'm vegan and eat zero wheat and zero soy. I also use zero caffeine. And I'm healthier than I've ever been.  I had two pregnancies ... one with a 4 hour labor and one 45 minutes ... and two robustly healthy and highly intelligent kids. 

From what I can ascertain from what you write above, you were vegetarian when you were married to a vegetarian for a while and are now eating animals because you're current husband eats animals. Maybe it's healthier to decide for ourselves based on the facts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 95 yo grandmother has been vegetarian almost her whole life. She&#8217;s a Seventh Day Adventist and most of them are either vegetarian or vegan. It&#8217;s well known Adventists as a group are among the world&#8217;s most long lived people. My grandmother&#8217;s husband died at age 102 and he was healthy and independent right up until he died in his sleep (he never once needed a &#8220;carer&#8221;).</p>
<p>Vegetarians can certainly have unhealthy diets, with lots of sugar, grains and soy. But those who eat whole plant based foods are as healthy as a human can possibly be. To say otherwise is to contradict all studies on the issue as well as common sense. </p>
<p>We can&#8217;t graze enough animals to feed the world carcasses 3 times a day, or even a few times a week. If we take away the massive government subsidies for carcasses, beef would cost something like $90 a pound.  And all these tribal societies Weston Price talked about didn&#8217;t make animals a *regular* part of their diet. They generally used animals a ritual sacrifices and then ate the dead bodies when they were done. It&#8217;s still this way among ALL the &#8220;blue zone&#8221; populations &#8230; they eat animal flesh maybe once or twice a year.</p>
<p>And no, organic gardening doesn&#8217;t need to rely on animal wastes to be productive. Yep, that&#8217;s right, there&#8217;s propaganda and misconceptions even in organic farming. Animal wastes are quite unsanitary in gardening and carry all sorts of parasites that are harmless to the animal but are dangerous to humans. Cover crops, rock powders and vegetable composting can keep any organic garden quite robust without using feces. </p>
<p>Soy and wheat are terrible for health, that&#8217;s so true. The global mess we have from soy, corn and wheat production is horrendous. And I know from personal experience that wheat can cause estrogen dominance and all kinds of problems from that. I&#8217;m vegan and eat zero wheat and zero soy. I also use zero caffeine. And I&#8217;m healthier than I&#8217;ve ever been.  I had two pregnancies &#8230; one with a 4 hour labor and one 45 minutes &#8230; and two robustly healthy and highly intelligent kids. </p>
<p>From what I can ascertain from what you write above, you were vegetarian when you were married to a vegetarian for a while and are now eating animals because you&#8217;re current husband eats animals. Maybe it&#8217;s healthier to decide for ourselves based on the facts?</p>
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		<title>By: Anita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thankyou Cathy. Yes, I think soy meat &#38; milk products are a LOT to blame here, as the mainstays of 'the endo diet', straight from the PR machine of the soy growers.  They have high levels of phytoestrogens. This was interesting reading-http://www.endo-resolved.com/soy.html   Real foods are always the answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankyou Cathy. Yes, I think soy meat &amp; milk products are a LOT to blame here, as the mainstays of &#8216;the endo diet&#8217;, straight from the PR machine of the soy growers.  They have high levels of phytoestrogens. This was interesting reading-http://www.endo-resolved.com/soy.html   Real foods are always the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Anita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, of course that's right. I've done some more reading, &#38; found that endometriosis is CAUSED by estrogen dominance, that is fed by dioxins, preservatives,  an imbalance of Omega 3/6, soy feeds- all prevalent in factory-farmed meats. Pasture-fed meats, on the other hand,  are high in protective nutrients and low in toxicity-enhancing compounds, so perfectly nourishing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, of course that&#8217;s right. I&#8217;ve done some more reading, &amp; found that endometriosis is CAUSED by estrogen dominance, that is fed by dioxins, preservatives,  an imbalance of Omega 3/6, soy feeds- all prevalent in factory-farmed meats. Pasture-fed meats, on the other hand,  are high in protective nutrients and low in toxicity-enhancing compounds, so perfectly nourishing.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy Mifsud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy Mifsud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anita, that sounds better.
 Unless digestion is really compromised.  Even soaked grains can be a problem for some unless fermented a long time. I'd keep grain to a min. No microwaves and avoid plasics where possible. No soy.
There hasn't been much talk on endo, strange since so many women have it.

I wonder what she was supposed to eat, a vegan diet based on soy?

See ya!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anita, that sounds better.<br />
 Unless digestion is really compromised.  Even soaked grains can be a problem for some unless fermented a long time. I&#8217;d keep grain to a min. No microwaves and avoid plasics where possible. No soy.<br />
There hasn&#8217;t been much talk on endo, strange since so many women have it.</p>
<p>I wonder what she was supposed to eat, a vegan diet based on soy?</p>
<p>See ya!</p>
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